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Exelon’s (EXC) CEO Chris Crane On Q4 2014 Results – Earnings Call Transcript

Exelon Corporation (NYSE: EXC ) Q4 2014 Earnings Conference Call February 14, 2015 11:00 ET Executives Chris Crane – President and Chief Executive Officer Jack Thayer – Chief Financial Officer Joe Nigro – Chief Executive Officer, Constellation Bill Von Hoene – Chief Strategy Officer Ken Cornew – President and Chief Executive Officer of Exelon Generation Joe Dominguez – Senior Vice President of Federal Regulatory Affairs and public Policy Denis OBrien – Chief Executive Officer of Exelon Utilities Analysts Greg Gordon – Evercore-ISI Dan Eggers – Credit Suisse Jonathan Arnold – Deutsche Bank Steven Fleishman – Wolfe Research Julien Dumoulin-Smith – UBS Stephen Byrd – Morgan Stanley Hugh Wynne – Sanford Bernstein Operator Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining for our Fourth Quarter 2014 Earnings Conference Call. Leading the call today are Chris Crane, Exelon’s President and Chief Executive Officer; Jack Thayer, Exelon’s Chief Financial Officer; Joe Nigro, CEO of Constellation; and Bill Von Hoene, Exelon’s Chief Strategy Officer. They are joined by other members of Exelon’s senior management team who will be available to answer your questions following our prepared remarks. We issued our earning release this morning along with a presentation, each of which can be found in the Investor Relations section of Exelon’s website. The earnings release and other matters that we discuss during today’s call contain forward-looking statements and estimates that are subject to various risks and uncertainties. Actual results could defer from our forward-looking statements based on factors and assumptions discussed in today’s material and comments made during this call and in the Risk Factors section of the earnings release and the 10-K, which we expect to file later today. Please refer to today’s 8-K and the 10-K and Exelon’s other fillings for a discussion of factors that may cause the results to differ from management’s projections, forecasts, and expectations. Today’s presentation also includes references to adjusted opening earnings and other non-GAAP measures. Please refer to the information contained in the appendix of our presentation and our earnings release for a reconciliation between the non-GAAP measures to the nearest equivalent GAAP measures. We have scheduled 60 minutes for today’s call. I will now turn the call over to Chris Crane, Exelon’s CEO. Chris Crane Good morning and thanks for everybody joining. We had another strong year of operations in 2014, which we are very pleased with given the challenging weather conditions at the start of the year. At the utilities, each OpCo achieved top decile performance for safety and top quartile performance for outage frequency and duration. The nuclear fleet ended the year at 94.2% capacity factor, which this marks our 15th year in a row being over 92%. Gas and hydro power dispatch match was at 97% and our renewable energy capture was at 95%. On the financial side, we delivered $2.39 a share in line with our recent year full year guidance. Exelon Generation delivered a strong year for performance in what was a volatile year and our generation to load matching strategy drove strong results during an unexpected mild summer. The utilities performed well in light of severe storms and continuing challenging interest rate environment. 2014 was an active year for us. In addition to selling several assets, we continue the process of recycling capital and strengthening our balance sheet. I will highlight some of our major investments for the year. We grew across the enterprise. From the utility growth perspective, we announced the PHI merger and continued on with our infrastructure upgrade plant spending $3.1 billion of utility investment. On the merchant side, we announced the state-of-the-art CCGT newbuild in ERCOT and we added 215 megawatts in nuclear, wind and solar capacity during the year. At Constellation on the retail side, we completed the acquisition of Integrys retail and ProLiance. We also made investments in adjacent markets in emerging technology to continue to prepare for an evolving marketplace. Bloom Energy and our micro grid investments are good examples of that. We also have a number of major regulatory developments in 2014 that affect both the utilities and the generating business. On the generating side, we have seen progress in Illinois nuclear discussions, with four reports released last month, which highlights the reliability, the economic and the environmental benefits of the nuclear plants to the state. PJM capacity performance proposal has been submitted to FERC. We strongly support the steps being taken to ensure reliability in the region. We expect a continuing discussion on the EPA’s Clean Power Plan over the next several months. On the utility front, we had two positive outcomes for ComEd and BGE rate cases. ComEd received 95% or more from our ask on the last three consecutive rate cases. And BGE achieved its first settlement since 1999. And these outcomes highlight our continued commitment to the customers we serve. Bill is going to go into greater detail on the efficacy issues towards the end of the call. These policy initiatives on the horizon present a potential material upside to earnings as value of our fleet is more appropriately recognized by the market. However, I do want to underscore that the management team is focused on EPS growth and our capital deployment efforts. We invest in prudent growth of the utilities where we can add value for our customers. And within our merchant business we look for opportunities to earn robust financial returns. Our recent announcement announced a Peaker in New England is a great example of that. Our continued investments in both utilities and the generation businesses, demonstrates our commitment to long-term growth initiatives across the enterprise that will bring value to our customers and drive future earnings. Now let me turn it over to Jack to discuss our financial expectations for 2015. Jack Thayer Thank you, Chris and good morning everyone. We provided information on our fourth quarter financial results in the appendix of today’s materials on Slides 17 and 18. I will spend my time this morning on 2015 earnings guidance and our O&M forecast. Turning to Slide 3, we expect to deliver adjusted operating earnings in the $2.25 to $2.55 range, which is the same as our 2014 guidance and earnings of $0.60 to $0.70 per share for the first quarter. Our guidance does not include the earnings from the Pepco Holdings acquisition, but does reflect all asset divestitures to-date. As you know we sold several assets last year, the proceeds of which are being used to partially finance the PHI acquisition and to recycle capital on the merchant side of our business. The lost contributions from these divestitures results in an earnings impact of $0.12 per share relative to last year. In future years there is minimal earnings impact, in particular as capacity revenue from Keystone and Conemaugh runs off. The modest lost earnings from the divested plants will be meaningfully offset by the accretion from our Pepco merger and earnings from other growth projects. For 2015, the earnings impact from these divestitures of $0.12, combined with an additional refueling outage at nuclear of $0.02 and the increased pension and OPEB cost at ExGen of $0.02 are modestly offset by higher capacity prices of $0.07. The full year benefit of the elimination of the DOE fee at Exelon Nuclear of $0.04 and by higher earnings at ComEd of $0.03. As you know at EEI we gave earnings projections for Exelon for three utilities through 2017. Since that time, we have adjusted the midpoints of that guidance down by a total of $0.05 per share due to the impacts of treasury yields at ComEd and bonus depreciations impact on EPS. We still expect a healthy 5% to 6% CAGR on utility earnings from 2014 to 2017 and the cash benefits from bonus depreciation will help to accelerate and fund utility investments. For reference and deeper analysis more detail on the year-over-year drivers by operating company can be found in the appendix on Slides 19 through 22. As Chris mentioned our capital investment plan is significant and positions us to grow earnings over time. Over the next 5 years we are investing $16 billion in capital at our existing utilities and plan for more than $6 billion of investments at the Pepco utilities. We believe these investments are prudent and will improve reliability and our customers’ experience. As you know the Pepco transaction is expected to add $0.15 to $0.20 per share of earnings on a steady state basis in 2017 and beyond. In addition to growing earnings the Pepco acquisition shifts our earnings mix to a substantially more regulated weighting with 61% to 67% of earnings coming from the regulated side in the 2016 through 2017 period. On the ExGen front our focus is deploying capital for growth that achieves attractive financial returns and generates both earnings and cash flow. These investments span the energy value chain and include conventional generation like our Texas CCGTs and a new build peaker in New England that cleared the most recent capacity auction and investments in our distributed energy platform. Above and beyond our existing plan, we see additional opportunities and the have free cash flow to deploy capital to earn attractive incremental returns on both the regulated and merchant sides of our business. Starting in 2016, we expect to have up to $1 billion in incremental annual capacity we can deploy to invest in our utilities, emerging growth and other opportunities. At the utilities, we are evaluating the potential to increase our investments in utility infrastructure, including grid resiliency and security, storm hardening, and new smart grid enabled technologies. Of course, our capital investment in the utilities has to be prudent and help meet the evolving expectations of our customers. These investments will benefit customers by improving reliability and system performance and allow them to better understand and manage their energy usage and costs. At ExGen, capital deployment across the business will be driven by the ability to earn robust financial returns. Slide 4 shows our 2015 O&M forecast relative to 2014. We project O&M for 2015 to be $7.225 billion, an increase of $275 million over 2014. The increase at ComEd and BGE is due to inflation and increased budgeting for storm costs, which results in incremental year-over-year O&M growth. ExGen’s increase is related to a combination of factors, the inclusion the three months of CENG O&M relative to 2014, an additional planned nuclear outage compared to 2014, increased pension costs and projects at Constellation and Generation, including Integrys and growth in our distributed energy business. Overall, we expect a basically flat O&M CAGR over the 2015 to 2017 period. We remain disciplined on cost even as we seek to grow our business. Since our presentation at EEI, we have increased our CapEx projections for 2015 across the company by approximately $325 million. The increase is primarily at ExGen and reflects investments to build contracted generation, including an 80-megawatt wind facility in Texas and an up to 50-megawatt biomass plant in Georgia, which we announced yesterday. Additionally, we have increased the 2015 budgeted CapEx for our Texas CCGTs, advancing the timing of the capital spend. The total cost of the project has not changed. Now, I will turn the call over to Joe Nigro for a discussion of markets and our hedge disclosures. Joe Nigro Thanks, Jack and good morning. The Constellation business continues to perform at high levels. We finished 2014 strong and are seeing solid results so far in 2015 as a result of our generation of load matching strategy and our ability [Technical Difficulty] to market. My comments today will address market events during the fourth quarter and what they mean for our commercial business going forward, including our hedging strategy, the New England ISO capacity market results and our updated hedge disclosures. During the fourth quarter, we experienced a decline in prices across the energy complex as oil and natural gas both realized steep losses in the spot market. Power prices followed gas lower in the second half of the quarter as expectations of extreme weather subsided. The primary driver weighing on prices was the contraction of winter premiums as the markets focus moved away from last year’s Polar Vortex and on to higher natural gas production storage estimates. NI Hub and West Hub around-the-clock prices were down $1.50 to $3 for calendar years 2016 and ‘17 from the end of the third quarter to the end of the fourth quarter. In response, we have positioned the portfolio to better align with our fundamental view that we expect to see seasonal power price subside, primarily at NI Hub and began to build a long position into the forward years. This is similar to how we positioned the portfolio the last few years when our fundamental view showed power market upside. When the market is volatile, our generation of load strategy allows us to optimize the portfolio to lock-in additional value. During the year, we aggressively pursued load-following sales when we observed appropriate risk premiums and increasing margins. We are very highly hedged in 2015 and not impacted from the large downturn in near-term power prices. In fact, we were very aggressive in hedging our PJM East and New England portfolios early in the fourth quarter when higher risk premiums were priced into the market. The remaining length in 2015 is mostly in our Midwest position and focused in the months and time buckets where we believe the forward market is undervalued. As I mentioned we began to build a long tradition in the forward years because we see upside in our view versus market. During the fourth quarter, we dropped further behind our ratable plan and added approximately 5% to our hedge percentages for 2016 and 2017 versus a normal quarter of 8% sales. The majority of our behind ratable position remains in the Midwest where we continue to see upside in power prices driven by coal retirements. Not only did we adjust our deviation to ratable during the quarter, but we also adjusted our seasonal hedging strategies holding length in undervalued month. We will continue to hold a long position based on our market views. Last year at this time we talked about hedging with natural gas to take advantage of our bullish view on heat rates. Those views have materialized over the past 12 months. And we have shifted our hedging strategy out of these cross commodity hedges in order to lock in the higher market implied heat rates. In January of last year, natural gas sales represented over 10% of our hedges. Currently they are less than 2% in any given year. Going forward our hedging strategies and positions will continue to reflect where we see upside versus current market prices both from our view of heat rate expansion and natural gas price increases. We have got a lot of questions recently on oil markets and I would like to spend a minute on what the sharp decline in pricing means for our business. We are not materially impacted by oil pricing mostly due to the fact that our gross margin is primarily driven by a large base load position. However, we do experienced some minor impacts including the potential for lower peak power pricing during heavy load conditions, the potential for lower load growth in ERCOT and lower pricing in our upstream business. The current pressure on the oil prices is more pronounced in the near-term delivery periods as longer-term prices in the $65 to $70 per barrel range still reflects global demand growth. Before I turn to our gross margin update, I want to provide you an update on the recent capacity auction in New England. On February 4, ISO New England released the results of its ninth forward capacity option for the planning year 2018-2019. The clearing price indicate that the new pay for performance capacity construct works. And will attract development of new resources needed in the region. This concludes our recently announced 195 megawatts dual fuel peaking facility at our existing West Medway site, which we expect to have online by December of 2018. Turning to Slide 6, I will review our updated hedge disclosure and the changes since the end of the third quarter. In 2015, total gross margin is unchanged. The impact of the divestiture of Keystone and Conemaugh was offset by the acquisition of Integrys and the expectation of favorable portfolio performance. We executed on a 100 million of power new business and 50 million of non-powered new business during the quarter. Based on 2015 performance to-date and the expectations for the full year, we have increased our power new business target by an additional $50 million. For 2016-2017, total gross margin decreased by $200 million and $250 million respectively largely driven by the impact of lower market prices on our open position. The divesture of Keystone and Conemaugh was offset by the addition of Integrys in these years. We also executed on 50 million of both power and non-power new business in 2016. Overall, the commercial business is performing extremely well across all of our business lines. We will continue to implement hedging strategies that reflect our fundamental view of increases in both power and natural gas markets and optimize our portfolio. Now I will turn it over to Bill. Bill Von Hoene Thanks very much Joe and good morning everyone. As Chris referenced in his opening statements, there are a number of developments playing out on the policy front that affect our customers are our businesses. These issues are not necessarily earnings impactful in 2015, but they may have a material impact on the company beyond this year. And so we are going to spend a few minutes this morning sharing with you our perspectives on the issues. I will start with three issues affecting the generation business in policy space. First on the capacity market reform front that Kris referenced, we have been involved in PJM’s stakeholder process to develop a proposal that will harden the power supply system to help it withstand extreme weather events and ensure reliability for customers. We believe the proposal that now sits before FERC is constructive and if approved will address the gaps in system reliability. The proposal has many similarities to the – for performance market design, which FERC approved in New England a couple of years ago. It’s a no-excuses approach that provides fair compensation to reliable assets that do perform and penalizes suppliers that do not. We think this is a win-win for our customers and for our generation business. We have invested billions of dollars in our fleet over the years to make it the most reliable set of generating assets in the country and we think that the fleet will fare well in a pay for performance system. All told, we view developments on the capacity reform front as decidedly positive and we are expecting a ruling from FERC by April 1. Second, let me talk briefly about the discussions that are ongoing in Illinois. As Chris referenced and as you all have seen by now, the state of Illinois report on potential nuclear power plant closings was issued earlier this year in response to House resolution 1146. As stated in that report, the right energy policy for Illinois should guarantee reliability and improve the environment, while creating and retaining jobs, growing the local economy and minimizing cost. It is difficult to envision such a policy, without nuclear as a critical part of the energy mix. The report offers an independent assessment of the substantial economic, environmental, and reliability benefits that Illinois’ six nuclear plants bring to the state and lays out five options to address the current situation. Establishment of the cap and trade program, imposition of a carbon tax, adoption of a low carbon portfolio standard, adoption of a sustainable power planning standard or reliance on market and external initiatives to make the corrections. We are supportive of any of the options that reward all carbon-free resources equally, but doing nothing simply is not a viable economic option if we are to maintain the operations of those plants that are at risk. As we stated repeatedly, we do not think a bailout. This is about addressing market floss to properly value resources that are of great importance to the State of Illinois. The state has an opportunity to implement, need a change and we will work with policymakers and stakeholders during the coming months to come to an appropriate conclusion soon. Third, on the generation front, a brief discussion of the environmental policy, as you know the EPA’s clean power draft was issued last year. While it is well-intentioned, it fell short in our view of addressing the importance of nuclear to achieving our national environmental goals. We continue to work on improving the plan. Notwithstanding the shortcomings of the initial proposal, however, we view the environmental discussion as progressing in the right direction. Furthermore, the EPA debate and the states roadmaps to implementing the plan are inextricably linked to the discussion around nuclear energy in Illinois that I just referenced as any solution must contemplate the state’s ability to comply and to do so cost effectively without the clean attributes of nuclear that will be impossible. The final ruling on the EPA’s plan has been pushed back to later this summer. Like many, we want clarity on the issue. However, we would rather the time be taken for the agency to get this right and design a rational emissions reduction policy for the country than to rush it through. We are confident that the EPA will issue a final rule that appropriately values our assets. The question that arises from all of these pieces is how do they fit together and will the resolution of these three policy issues translate to market-based compensation sufficient to maintain the economic viability of our challenged assets. That is what will play out over the next few months or longer. In the aggregate and individually, we view these potential policy changes as a positive driver for the Exelon fleet. If the PJM reforms are adopted, this should benefit all of our PJM nuclear assets. However, we have been clear that there is no silver bullet. Each plant has to stand on its own economic merits and it is unlikely that the PJM reforms in isolation will ensure the survival of each plant. One clear example of this is Clinton club, which is not in PJM and therefore will not be properly valued as a result of the PJM capacity market reforms. These plants need to be fairly recognized for both their unparalleled reliability and for their zero carbon attributes. Anything short of that recognition is insufficient and that is why we have been working diligently and simultaneously on all the fronts I have referenced. The fact is there is no other technology that produces reliable, zero carbon electricity. All of the alternatives are intermittent and far more expensive than keeping these plants in operation. Our customers will pay more if these assets are retired prematurely and need to be placed. We think policymakers get this and also understand what it means to lose these plants in terms of jobs and costs. We are optimistic that they will take the steps needed to ensure fair treatment of the units, because it is clearly in the customer’s and the state’s interest to keep these plants open. Finally, on the regulatory front, let me turn to a non-generation matter, which is of course the PEPCO transaction, which we announced last year. Getting the merger with PEPCO across the finish line is of course a very high priority for the company and things are progressing according to plan. We continue to anticipate a closing sometime in the second or third quarter of this year. We are pleased to have received approval from New Jersey earlier this week. And as you know, we have already received approvals from FERC and the state of Virginia. In Delaware, as noted in the letter to the commission that you have seen, we are close to a settlement. And if the settlement is reached, there may be an adjustment in the schedule. We are continuing the process of review in the remaining jurisdictions of Maryland and Washington DC. We believe the merger is in the public interest and we expect that the combined company to bring significant value to customers given our top-tier operational performance and the merger commitments we have made. We look forward to completing the regulatory process and closing the transaction on schedule. Thank you. And now, we will open up the floor for questions. Question-and-Answer Session Operator [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Greg Gordon of Evercore-ISI. Greg Gordon Thanks. Good morning guys. Jack Thayer Hey, Greg. Greg Gordon Jack, can you comment again on the – to revisit the comments you made on the earnings guidance for the utilities, because as I look at the $0.20 to $0.30 from BGE, $0.35 to $0.45 from PECO and $0.45 to $0.55 from ComEd, if I just take the exact midpoint there, that’s $1.15 versus $1.25 at the midpoint of the eyes that’s a $0.10 delta, not a $0.05 delta? Is there a reason why I am miscalculating that? Jack Thayer No, Greg. The $0.05 delta was with respect to 2017. The 2015 guidance to your point is down $0.10. Some of that is just a mere factor of rounding. We speak in terms of $0.05 increments. And would say 2015 guidance is down on a relative basis, $0.05 year-over-year, although the rounding would indicate that is down $0.10, it’s just a matter of how we round it up or round it down our expectations. Greg Gordon Okay. So the earnings power out in ‘17 of you three utility businesses is a nickel lower than your prior expectation, not a dime? Jack Thayer That’s correct. And I think importantly there, you see the sensitivity we have to interest rates, primarily ComEd, you see the impact of the bonus depreciation, which has the CPS impact of lowering rate based and lowering expected earnings but also is the cash flow and savings related to that is a contributor to the $1 billion of incremental capital we see in ‘16 and beyond that we can deploy to grow both our utilities business as well as our merchant business. Greg Gordon Okay. Another question, because I think there is a bit of an apples and oranges going on in terms of the discussion, now that you have given us an earnings guidance for this year, that includes the $0.12 dilution from the generation, from the asset sales that you are using to fund the Potomac transaction. As we roll into – if we assume that deal closed precisely on 12/31, is it accretive by $0.15 to $0.20? Is it accretive by $0.15 to $0.20 all things equal off this base or is it more accretive because you are also offsetting the dilution from the asset sales you used to fund the deal? Jack Thayer The $0.15 to $0.20 number, Greg, that we referenced incorporates the net dilution associated with the asset sales. That said as I mentioned in the script, the earnings contribution from those assets, while admittedly $0.12 this year, because of the failure of Keystone and Conemaugh to clear capacity markets, the contribution from those assets diminished meaningfully off the curve. The $0.15 to $0.20 that I referenced we would anticipate in 2017, so that’s while you mentioned a close in 12/31 obviously per Bill’s comments we are anticipating a Q2 and Q3 close. We wouldn’t expect to see that all of that $0.15 to $0.20 until 2017, we will be certainly achieving part of that during the 2016 period. Greg Gordon Got it. So, I get it, so the math on the earnings contribution from the assets sold, they would have been significantly less than the $0.12 contributor out in time? Jack Thayer Correct. Greg Gordon Okay. One more question, just in a little bit of the weeds on the forecast for O&M, you did call out increased O&M predominantly at BGE, ComEd, and ExGen and then you say that through ‘17, you expect 0.2% growth. Specifically at ExGen, as we get out into ‘17 is that growth rate sort of pro rata across all the businesses? Is ExGen’s O&M roughly static, because I know you are adding assets to the mix in ‘17? And I am wondering whether there is a significant increase in O&M associated with that or whether the totality of the O&M is still only growing nominally inclusive of those new asset additions? Jack Thayer It’s pretty static, Greg. Certainly, we are adding those assets, the operating cost of which will increase. We added Integrys. We added ProLiance. We have announced in recent months both a waste-digesting plant out in LA, a pulp and biomass facility down in Georgia partnered with P&G. We are looking for incremental opportunities in that space. We are offsetting that in part with activities that we are pursuing broadly across the company to drive lower operating costs both within the embedded businesses – so Constellation, the power generation business, the nuclear business, as well as our business services corporation. So, on a kind of blended basis, we see relatively flat O&M further out the curve. Obviously, wage inflation is a component of that. Interest rates have been a meaningful factor of that in driving pension costs and the growth in the liabilities side of that higher. So, as CPI oscillates as interest rates move that will continue to be candidly something a little bit outside our control, but obviously something we are trying to focus on other things to offset. Greg Gordon Great, thank you guys. Jack Thayer Thank you. Operator Your next question comes from Dan Eggers from Credit Suisse. Dan Eggers Hey, good morning, guys. Jack Thayer Good morning, Dan. Dan Eggers Just following up on Greg’s question on the utility outlook, if you go back to a year ago when you guys gave guidance I think that kind of all these expectations are down about $0.15 today from where they were a year ago. Can you just bridge for me what has changed a year-to-year basis? And then if you thought about interest rates normalizing or pension normalizing, how much of the $0.15 erosion could you reasonably get back? Jack Thayer I don’t know that Dan I can track you back to year end of 2013, but clearly you have seen a material degradation in the interest rate environment. As an example in 2014, the average 30-year was 3.34%. The interest rate for 30 years today is 2.63%. So, just with even – even within on an average basis of full year, the continued decline of interest rates and/or sensitivity to that through the formula rates at ComEd has been significant. For sensitivity, say 25 basis points up or down, and the interest rate is $9 million improvement or detriments to our expected revenues at ComEd. Obviously, the same element is impacting us from a pension liability side marry that with a change in the mortality tables and longer expected lives of our pension and OPEB participants. And that is a headwind – and that’s a headwind that we pass through, through the formula rate within ComEd. But we have to go through rate cases at PECO, and we have to go through a rate cases at BGE to recapture that. So, and then I guess the final element that’s changed, I think is given our load sensitivity of PECO and given some of our longer term load sensitivity of BGE and ComEd as we have continued to experience zero, and in some instances negative load growth that’s been a headwind as well. That said, we continue to see meaningful opportunities to deploy capital in that space. We see an opportunity to drive our customers’ reliability and experience. And importantly we see opportunities to earn a fair rate of return in those businesses. And as we are delivering and evolving a ray of services of our customer, even perhaps improve upon what we allowed to earn. Dan Eggers Okay, got it. And I guess, just kind of on the deployment of capital conversation, what are you guys seeing in the ERCOT markets at this point in time underlying the new build decision, it seems like sparks have eroded since those plans were announced and obviously with maybe an economic slowdown, because of oil and gas drilling, there is a little bit of concern in the market, I suppose over demand growth? Ken Cornew Yes, Dan, it’s Ken. We are very comfortable with our decision to invest in our combined cycle plants in Texas, and there are several reasons for it. First, the technology we have chosen, we think puts us in a significant competitive advantage. Again, as you know with the position in the stack, we would have as well the ramping capability in the units also cost advantage, given we own these sites. We have advantaged cost position that we don’t think it would be matched in the market. Importantly, we made this investment on our long-term fundamental views. And without talking about a re-assumption in our fundamental views, they are not – they are not drastically different than the environment we are seeing right now. We didn’t – we didn’t make a bet on massive load growth in Texas. We are very conservative in our assumptions. And the last thing I will say Dan is we have a significant load business in Texas as well. And having these plans and this capability and matching that capability with our load business is something, I think you are seeing it right now. We have proven that that is the value proposition that Exelon brings to table. And we expect that the investment in these plants will really enhance that value proposition in Texas. Dan Eggers Okay. Thanks, Ken. And I guess Bill can you just walk us through what kind of a timeline we need to see in Illinois as far as draft legislation on carbon action and kind of progression to get something done before the recess in the summer. Bill Von Hoene Yes, Dan. As you know the recess is scheduled or at least currently scheduled for the end of the May. And what we anticipate is that legislation consistent with the policy solutions outlined in the 1146 report will be introduced in the general assembly sometime within the next month. We are actively working with legislators, regulators and stakeholders with that in mind. So I would expect to see something surface within the next month and that will give ample time for the legislator to consider it. There will be hearings related to 1146 or possibly to the legislation specifically that will accompany that. But if this gets introduced as we anticipate within that next 30 days or so, it will give an opportunity to go through the full discourse in the legislature before the recess in May. Dan Eggers Okay. Thank you, guys. Operator Our next question comes from Jonathan Arnold from Deutsche Bank. Jonathan Arnold Yes, good morning, guys. Chris Crane Good morning. Jonathan Arnold Quick one first, just on Illinois and following up on Dan’s question, is there a sponsor that has emerged or sponsor of this or are you still kind of working that out? Bill Von Hoene There is – Jonathan, there has been nothing publicly announced. There will be a significant number of sponsors and it will be bipartisan, but that won’t be revealed until the legislation itself is actually announced. Jonathan Arnold Well, as you have said, you are expecting it to be broadly supported? Bill Von Hoene Correct. We anticipate Republican and Democratic sponsors in significant numbers. Jonathan Arnold In both houses or is it going to sort of emerge in one house and then go to the other? Bill Von Hoene The mechanics, it is not yet been determined what the mechanics will be, but there will be adequate support and sponsorship in both houses to run it through the legislature. Jonathan Arnold Great. And then if I could also just revisit the question on the regulated guidance, I am sorry to do this, but Jack when I look at the $1.11 starting point for 2014, which was pretty consistent with the EEI slide and your statement that 2017 is only down by a nickel in the midpoint, which would imply $1.35 versus $1.40. I think where I am having confusion is that you had said – you called that an 8% CAGR at EEI, but now you are saying 5% to 6%, but seems to me that the $1.11 to the $1.35 would be more like 6% to 7%. And 5% to 6% implies a bigger reduction. Can you speak to that at all? Jack Thayer I think Jonathan we are talking about 100 basis points. And to be candid, the rounding issue comes into play. So, I think I would focus more on the $0.05 of degradation from EEI’s 2017 expectation to where we sit today. And some of that is an issue of the timing of capital deployment and other elements and I think we feel good about 5% to 6% growth. Ideally, we will endeavor to deliver higher growth that $1 billion of incremental spend in ‘16 and beyond is potentially a driver of that incremental growth. Jonathan Arnold But the $0.05 is what we should really focus on? Jack Thayer Yes. Jonathan Arnold Got it. Thank you. Operator Your next question comes from Steven Fleishman from Wolfe Research. Steven Fleishman Yes, hi, thank you. So not to beat a dead horse with that, does your viewpoint on the utility include any of the $1 billion being reinvested in it or is that, that would now be in additive? Jack Thayer No, its additive. Steven Fleishman Great. Jack Thayer Incremental. Steven Fleishman Thanks. And then just with respect to the Illinois legislation, I know there is other aspects of this, not just on nuclear plants. So, maybe you could give us a little bit of better sense of what else might be addressed in this legislation. I am assuming it’s also kind of renewables, but is there other aspects that would likely be in this? Bill Von Hoene Steve, this is Bill. The legislation that we are referencing in the nuclear is standalone for the time being. There are going to be undoubtedly additional energy-related initiatives. There was a group that convened last week called the Clean Jobs Coalition, which was an environmentally directed group of a number of agencies and entities, which indicated that they will introduce legislation that will relate to energy efficiency to renewable standards and also to a cap and invest system that would be implemented in connection with 111(d). So, we anticipate that, that will be legislatively active and there undoubtedly will be a variety of other things that will be considered as well. Steven Fleishman Okay. And just lastly and maybe to Joe on your kind of point of view in your hedging, it sounds just to kind of clarify, it sounds like you are particularly focused on future NI Hub prices being too low. Is that fair? Joe Nigro Yes, Steve. I think there is two elements. I think you are correct when you think about the expansion opportunities, heat rates I think that’s primarily in NI Hub. I think from our perspective as well, we actually see upside to the natural gas markets, especially this maybe to a lesser extent in ‘16 and more so as you move out into ‘17 and ‘18 on the back of demand pickup and where prices are today and that would be true, for example, both at West Hub and NI Hub. You can see in the quarter that we sold less than our ratable plan, approximately 5% of our portfolio – total portfolio, whereas an average quarter, we would sell about 8% and we rotated out of a lot of the gas shorts that we had because of the big heat rate move we had. So, as we move forward as we build a position that falls behind ratable, it’s going to be done more on a, I’ll call it a flat-priced basis, where we are just going to take the power that we would have normally sold and just hold it in our portfolio and we will tailor that to locations and time buckets. NI Hub will be a big piece of that, but we will be looking at other areas as well depending on what we see in the gas market. Steven Fleishman Okay. Thank you. Operator Your next question comes from Julien Dumoulin-Smith from UBS. Julien Dumoulin-Smith Hi, good morning. Jack Thayer Good morning. Julien Dumoulin-Smith So, I wanted to ask a little bit of a bigger picture question here around the direction of the company vis-à-vis utility versus merchant. And as you think about that decision point, you have obviously made a couple of decisions over the past years, PEPCO namely, how were you thinking about positioning the company towards the merchant side of the business, specifically as you think about, a) potentially expanding nuclear and then b) specifically expanding into Texas, are either of those avenues palatable or desirable under a merchant expansion? And then more broadly, is a merchant expansion desirable at this point in time? Jack Thayer So, we continue to look at both sides. The utility business as we talked about we can operate the utilities well. We can drive efficiencies in. We can improve the customer experience while we are getting returns. We are in a unique situation with ComEd on the formula rate at some historically low interest rates. We are not running from the investment – the utility business. We think interest rates will normalize and will be at the right place for the return. So, we will continue to make prudent investments and operate the utilities well there. On the merchant side, it’s all about the value proposition in looking at the specific investments. If a nuclear plant came available and we could fold it into the portfolio and see our adequate returns, we would certainly have the scale and the scope to put one in. We don’t see any out there right now, but newbuild is not an option. So, that’s the only way we get as acquisition. As we have said before, we do think Texas is one of the more interesting markets to invest in right now, and that’s why we are proceeding with organic growth down there. We do look at assets that come up from time-to-time in the ERCOT market. Most have been overvalued from our perspective on the long-term fundamentals. That’s why building these new technology units makes more sense to us. So, we will continue to look for opportunities on both sides of the business and use the balance sheet prudently to make the investments, but one thing that we – in the last couple of years as we do our asset valuations on an annual basis, recycling capital has become a focus and we will continue to watch that. If we see assets and others have more value and we can deploy that capital into other arenas, we will not be – we will not be shy of any divestiture. And that’s what we did this year with divesting assets and having the opportunity to use that capital into what we think is something that would be strategically valuable for us with PEPCO and also having the – creating the new balance sheet space to make the investments in new unit. So, we were still very confident in the model and confident in the investment thesis. And if low interest rates are hard on pensions and they are hard on the formula rates, but in the long run we see those coming back and we still think it’s a good investment in CC. Julien Dumoulin-Smith Alright, great. And then secondly, if you can comment more specifically around Ginna in New York, obviously there has been some development there, what’s your latest expectations if you can elaborate? Bill Von Hoene Chris you want me to take that? Chris Crane Joe is going to grab it. Bill Von Hoene Thanks. Joe Dominguez Julien, this is Joe Dominguez. We continue negotiating the RSSA with our counterparties up there in New York. I think you will see developments become public on that within the next few days to a week. Julien Dumoulin-Smit Got it, fair enough. Thank you. Good luck. Joe Dominguez Thanks. Chris Crane Thank you. Operator Your next question comes from Stephen Byrd from Morgan Stanley. Stephen Byrd Good morning. Chris Crane Good morning. Stephen Byrd I wanted to – I think I had heard that on the call that Keystone and Conemaugh had not cleared in the PJM auction, and if that’s correct, I wondered if you can just elaborate on the rational, I thought of those as large well-operating co-plants, I am just curious what was the driver behind that? Joe Nigro And Stephen, this is Joe. Good morning. There are a couple of reasons for that. First of all, as you know into the mechanisms afforded in the PJM model, you can calculate an avoided cost rate on each of your units. And we take the opportunity with our fossil units in particular and all of our fossil units to do that. And that’s just what I’d call our cost base line. And recognizing what we need from a cost perspective on those units we take that into account in our bidding strategy. And we have a host of other assets that we have to look at in particular to make sure that we are looking this in a proper sense from a total portfolio basis. And in the way that math worked for Keystone and Conemaugh in particular, it just didn’t clear given where the clearing prices were today for that particular option. Ken Cornew So, Steven just a little to add to that, this is Ken, there are substantial costs at the plant associated with the environmental upgrades. That associated with the avoid the energy benefits that were very low from that 2009 to 2013 period drove the avoided cost rates up at those plants. And as we said before we – the market works when participants bid their costs, and that’s what we do. Stephen Byrd Okay, great. Thank you. And just shifting to the utility, in terms of achieving the growth rates that you have laid out, what kind of low growth assumptions sort of your latest thinking that’s driving that growth? Chris Crane Denis, do you get that? Denis OBrien Yes, Chris. The load growth is really flat to slightly positive for the next few years. What we are seeing for the last couple was flat to slightly negatively. We see the next 5 years or so, flat to slightly positive. Stephen Byrd Okay, great. And the change in terms of the outlook from flat to – negative to flat to positive, what’s your – just at a high level view of what would drive that improvement in load growth? Denis OBrien I think it’s just the general economic health of the each of the service territories that we serve. Stephen Byrd Okay. Thank you very much. Operator And our final question comes from Hugh Wynne from Sanford Bernstein. Hugh Wynne Thanks. The $435 million asset impairment charge in this quarter, how do you breakdown between Keystone, Conemaugh and upstream assets and others? Jack Thayer Hugh, the total of overall long-live assets impairments that we had during the year, we had a wind impairment that was $0.06. We had a lease impairment that was $0.02. We had Quail Run assets held for sale impairment of $0.04. Keystone and Conemaugh was $0.29 of that. Upstream was $0.09 for a total of $0.50. On the flip side of that, we had $0.28 of gains related to the sale of Safe Harbor, sale of Fore River, again on the sale of West Valley. So, overall on a net basis, it’s about $0.22 negative impact on the year. Hugh Wynne Okay. And then my question is for Bill. Bill, though you’re lawyer and you are talking about the potential implications of the Clean Power Plan EPS and Clean Power Plan, I just want to get your views as to the likelihood that the plan survives at all. I understand there has been challenges as to whether EPA has a authority to regulate CO2 under 111(d) at the – in the first place. And then secondly if it does, whether that authority extends to energy efficiency and renewables is this Clean Power Plan going to be with us in the long run or do you think it’s going to be whittled down or overturned altogether? Bill Von Hoene Well, one thing that we can be abundantly certain of is that there will be litigation respecting whatever the final rule will be. But the basic tenants, Hugh, of the underpinnings of the rule are legally sound. The ability to regulate carbon emission has been already ruled upon by the United States Supreme Court and our expectation is that there will be litigation and there maybe modifications that result from that, but the basic underpinning of the rule will survive and will have the impact that will be significant in that scope. Hugh Wynne Right, thank you very much. Operator I would now like to turn the call back over to our presenters. Jack Thayer So, thank you very much everybody for joining. As we laid out from an operation standpoint, very strong year, we continue to run well, continue to watch costs and contain where we can. The Constellation, the Generation business has done a very good job in this marketplace and we continue to see – feel very strong that, that will be continue to be supported. The utility side, the utilities are operating well as I said. We see the investment thesis as right. We know the sensitivity to the interest rates, but don’t think that’s a long-term sustainable issue and we will continue to keep investing. Thanks. Operator This will be the end of today’s call. You may now disconnect.

Just Energy Group’s (JE) CEO Deborah Merril on Q3 2014 Results – Earnings Call Transcript

Just Energy Group Inc. (NYSE: JE ) Q3 2014 Earnings Conference Call February 12, 2015 2:00 PM ET Executives Deborah Merril – President and Co-Chief Executive Officer Patrick McCullough – Chief Financial Officer James Lewis – President and Co-Chief Executive Officer Rebecca MacDonald – Executive Chairman of the Board Analysts Nelson Ng – RBC Capital Markets, LLC Trevor Johnson – National Bank Damir Gunja – TD Securities Operator Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the Just Energy Group, Inc. Conference Call to discuss the Third Quarter 2015 Results for the period ended December 31, 2014. At the end of today’s presentation there will be a formal Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the meeting over to Ms. Deb Merril. Deb, go ahead. Deborah Merril Thank you very much. Hi, my name is Deb Merril. I’m the Co-CEO of Just Energy. And I would like to welcome you all to our fiscal 2015 third quarter conference call. I have with me this afternoon Executive Chair, Rebecca MacDonald; my Co-CEO, James Lewis; as well as Pat McCullough, our CFO. Pat and I will discuss the results of the quarter and our expectations for the future. We will then open the call to questions. Before we get going, let me preface the call by telling you that our earnings release and potentially our answers to your questions will contain forward-looking financial information. This information may eventually prove to be inaccurate, so please read the disclaimer regarding such information at the bottom of our press release. Our third quarter showed continued progress in delivering our plan to become the premier world-class retailer of energy management solutions. In order to achieve that vision, significant balance sheet improvement was necessary. Less than a year ago, the company was burdened with more than a $1 billion in debt. We looked at our non-strategic assets and determined that divestiture will provide us the necessary financial flexibility to grow our core business and de-lever the balance sheet. We successfully disposed those businesses and utilized a large portion of the proceeds to bring our debt to $659 million. This is down 34% from a year earlier. We now have a forward pro forma net debt to EBITDA ratio of less than four times and we remain committed to further debt reductions and a lower ratio moving forward. Bringing new value propositions to the market is paramount to our strategy. This quarter, we entered into a comprehensive agreement to address the North American residential solar market. This entry into high growth, high profit solar space requires no CapEx and through our partnership with Clean Power Finance leverages an existing solar fulfillment network across the continent. We are focused on tapping into Just Energy’s unparalleled captive customer base and to leverage our sales and marketing channels. We believe successful execution of our solar strategy will make Just Energy the origination partner of choice in the solar industry. This quarter we will begin test marketing in California and New York. We believe solar has the potential to become a major contributor to the profitability of Just Energy in the near term and is a prime example of the direction Just Energy is taking to become the premier world-class retailer energy management solutions. You can expect us to begin providing further updates on our solar initiative on future calls as our pilot program begins producing tangible results. Overall, we are very pleased with the progress seen in fiscal 2015. We are nine months into our fiscal year and tracking to the high end of the EBITDA guidance that we provided. We believe this progress in performance will provide us with the platform for future growth, specifically double-digit percentage based EBITDA growth in fiscal 2016. Let me now provide some detail on the third quarter results. The quarter continued the trend of very strong customer aggregation. Q3 saw 354,000 additions, 6% more than fiscal 2014, and the third highest total in company history. To-date we have signed 1.1 million customers, 13% ahead of the record pay seen in fiscal 2014. Even more importantly, net customer additions for the quarter were 58,000 up 53% from last year. Year-to-date, net additions are 252,000 up 83% from a year earlier and more than the total added for all of fiscal 2014. Over the past 12 months, our total customer base increased 7% to 4.7 million RCEs. The combined attrition rate for Just Energy was 16% for the trailing 12 months ended December 31, 2014, up 1% from attrition reported in the previous quarter. Consumer attrition at 27% was flat, while commercial attrition at 7% was up 1%. Renewal rates were consistent with those reported in the second quarter. Consumer renewals remain unchanged at 75% and commercial renewals were down 1% to 63% on a trailing 12-month basis. This indicates continued satisfaction with the company’s products and services. Commercial renewals are often subject to competitive bid and will inevitably be more volatile than consumer renewals. Overall, management sees stability and renewals around current levels. Turning now to profitability, the quarter saw lower base EBITDA and cash flow compared to a very strong third quarter and fiscal 2014. This was anticipated in our guidance to the market. Base EBITDA was $50.6 million, down from $62.1 million a year ago. The quarter Base EBITDA was on plan despite $4.5 million in non-recurring legal cost. Year-to-date EBITDA is up 1% with a promising Q4 ahead. We believe our results for the year will be at the upper end of our guidance range of $163 million to $173 million. Let me turn things over to Pat McCullough to talk about the details of the quarter and then I will finish with the discussion of the trends we see in the market for future periods. Patrick McCullough Thank you, Deb. Before diving into the details of a very strong quarter, let me clarify one bit of accounting that I believe could be confusing to many. We reported an IFRS loss of $371 million on continuing operations in the quarter. This loss is entirely due to mark-to-market on our future supply purchases. Future gas and electricity prices declined in the quarter reducing the theoretical value of our positions. I say theoretical, because these positions have all been sold to customers at fixed contract prices. So mark-to-market has no impact on the real value of the position. Over time, we’ve seen wild swings in mark-to-market accounting measures both to the positive and negative. However, these swings have no cash consideration or materiality on our results whatsoever. Let me detail some of the progress towards our financial goals that we’ve seen in the third quarter. Our sales were up 13% reflecting our 7% increase in customers and higher selling prices. Year-to-date sales were up 12%. Our gross margin was up 1% versus fiscal 2014. As Deb noted, we had a very strong comparable quarter with positive reconciliations with the utilities as compared to negative reconciliations this quarter. Year-to-date margins are up 10% in line with our customer growth. This profitability was partly driven by higher new customer margins. We’re able to do this because of our innovative new products that achieved value not only for the customer, but also provide better margins for Just Energy. New commercial customers were signed at $85 annual margin, up from $80 last quarter and $68 a year ago. The higher commercial margin is a conscious decision by management to reduce low margin commercial business and focus on more profitable customer segments. We’ve also benefited from the market exit of a number of smaller low price competitors who are unable to weather the volatility of last winter’s polar vortex. New residential customers were at $191 annually, up from a $160 a year ago. Improved margin per customer has been a focus of management. Higher margin on residential customers is a particularly positive trend as these customers are largely locked into five year contract terms. Our base EBITDA was down compared to a strong third quarter a year ago. Year-to-date EBITDA is up 1%. This was anticipated when we said our guidance for the year and we’re happy to be tracking to the high end of our range despite overcoming $8.5 million in unforeseen legal provisions year-to-date. Administrative cost for the impact of these one-time expenses, they were up 41% year-over-year in the quarter and 27% year-to-date. We have anticipated double-digit growth to fund expansion, previously mentioned non-recurring charges of $8.5 million in legal costs contributed to the year-over-year variance. Selling and marketing expense increased by 17% year-over-year in the quarter compared to the 6% increase in customer additions. Selling cost included amortization of past advances to commercial agents and residual payments to our internet channel. These costs are not associated with customers added during the period. That debt was at the low end of our target range at 2.2% of relevant revenue, an improvement from 2.3%. Our third quarter funds from operations were $21.2 million, down from $37.4 million in fiscal 2014, consistent with our change in EBITDA. Year-to-date funds from operations were $60.5 million down from $71.3 million with our most profitable quarter coming up next. Overall, the third quarter was in line with our expectations and consistent with our guidance. Let me turn it back to Deb to talk about trends for the future. Deborah Merril Thank you, Pat. Through prudent fiscal management as well as a clear strategy for the future, we are in a very solid financial position after nine months of fiscal 2015. Our core business is healthy and growing. We’re generating record numbers of new customers and customer margins continue to improve. We have a leading market position in all our geographic territories. Our experience in marketing expertise allows us to stay in step with the evolving needs of our target customer. As customer awareness and demands change, we are uniquely positioned to rapidly meet the growing need for energy solutions. We will leverage our access to the best technologies and innovative products in the marketplace today to continue to provide value to our growing customer base. We’ve reduced our debt and we’ll continue to improve our balance sheet. We are comfortable with our dividend and anticipate no changes to our policy going forward. Management is committed to delivering our strategy of both building our core business and bring new exciting products to customers. This will allow Just Energy to deliver double-digit growth in fiscal 2016, and ensure the continued success of the company. On behalf of Rebecca, James, Pat and I, we want to thank our employees for their efforts in delivering shareholder value and their commitment to our customers. We’ll now open it up for questions. Question-and-Answer Session Operator Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Nelson Ng. Nelson, your line is open. Nelson Ng Great, thanks. Congratulations on a strong quarter. Deborah Merril Thank you, Nelson. Patrick McCullough Thank you, Nelson. Nelson Ng First question relates to the Massachusetts settlement in terms of $4.5 million settlement. Has that led to any changes in terms of how you source customers in that stake going forward? James Lewis Nelson, it’s James here. What it allows us to do is continue to focus on bringing value-added product to customers. We wanted to get it behind us, because we believe that Massachusetts and the customer that we have value products and services that we want to deliver from solar and other fixed price products. So it was our decision just to move forward and allow management to focus on bringing value to those customers. Nelson Ng I see, okay. And then the next question is probably for Patrick, but in terms of the debt reduction, I guess, now that you’ve repaid the credit facility, what’s your next focus? And will you be more active in your NCIB regarding the convertible debt? Patrick McCullough Yes, thanks for that question, Nelson. As everyone recognize this, we have a strategy here to improve our financial statements to create a healthy and a strong position to take this business forward. The first move that we’re working on right now is renewing our credit facility, which is going well and we expect to have finalized and closed in the short-term. At that point, we’ll essentially take the cash proceeds that we received from our non-core asset divestitures and be able to utilize those to address things like the long-term debt in the NCIBs that you are referring to. Nelson Ng Okay, thanks. And then just one last question, I want to touch on cash taxes, so they were higher this quarter, I was just wondering whether the – any Just sale contributed to higher taxes, or are you generally expecting higher taxes going forward? Patrick McCullough Yes, let’s talk about the overall tax picture first. As we go forward, we will become a cash tax payer, that will not be happening in the short-term, that will be happening in a year to two-year time period. As you’re aware, we’re doing business in the United States, Canada, and the UK, so we are working to create a tax efficient solution for those jurisdictions. But we will become a moderate cash tax payer, you will see that incorporated as we provide future guidance. As it relates to NHS, I don’t believe, there was a cash tax ramification associated with that, but I will confirm that and get back to you Nelson. Nelson Ng Okay, thank. Those are my questions for now. Deborah Merril Thank you. Operator Our next question comes – oops, my apologies. Patrick McCullough Sorry, this is Pat. Just a follow-up, Nelson. The cash tax reported this period was sales tax. It was not associated with, sorry, state tax, not associated with NHS transaction. Operator Okay. Our next question comes from Damir Gunja. Damir, your line is open. Damir Gunja Thank you. Good afternoon. Just wondering if you can give us a little bit more color elaboration on the double-digit growth expectation for 2016? I guess the – how much of that could be coming from customer growth, or margin expansion, or possibly even a solar contribution? Deborah Merril Yes, I think, it will come from all of those things. It’s – we’ve worked very hard this year to continue to add customers, last year we had a light – relatively light customer net additions, between the net additions this year, as well as the increase in margin that we’re seeing. As we look at 2016, we believe that we’ll be in a place where we can restore that double-digit growth – percentage growth in base EBITDA. So it’s kind of a combination of a lot of things. It’s not only the increase in the customer base, but also the increase in the margins for customers we’re seeing, and we fully expect solar to contribute something in fiscal 2016 as well. So that we’re still in the very early stages of test filing that and really defining our strategy and when we think that money will start really affecting our bottom line. But we’re confident that it will at least have an impact in fiscal 2016 as well. So it’s a combination of lot of things. Damir Gunja Okay. I guess on currency, can you just help us understand, I guess, the impact of the rising dollar. Is that a tailwind to the numbers, or it was on a net basis has that been hedged away, or is that something that is going to help? Patrick McCullough Yes. I think there is a little bit to say here. We do hedge transactional currency risk. So as we think about bringing U.S. dollars to Canada to pay dividends and interest payments, we will take a transactional hedge on those amounts anywhere from 12 months to 18 months period of time. We do not hedge for the translation risk or opportunity. And with the U.S. dollar strengthening, we are seeing an improvement to EBITDA. It’s probably a little bit less than you might be thinking, because our fixed cost is largely distributed with our gross margin. So we have a pretty significant U.S. selling G&A costs. So when we see a 10 percentage point improvement in the U.S. dollar versus the Canadian dollar that equates to about $2 million of EBITDA a quarter, so CAD8 million on a full-year basis. Damir Gunja That’s helpful. Thank you. That’s it for me. I’ll get back in the queue. Thank you. Operator [Operator Instructions] And we have a question from Trevor Johnson. Trevor, your line is open. Trevor Johnson Good afternoon, folks. Patrick McCullough Hi, Trevor. Trevor Johnson I know it’s early stage you are going to give us more color going forward. But can you just give us, maybe a basic sense of what the cash flow profile for a residential solar customer may look like? If you can even give dollar amounts, just curious about the timing and maybe the payback that you’ll be looking at on that venture? Patrick McCullough Sure. The origination income part of the deal that we’ve struck with Clean Power Finance is very beneficial to our financial statements, both from a profit and a cash perspective. We are piloting this to understand that ultimate margin question that I think we all have and we’ll know more in a matter of months. But right now, I can tell you how payments will happen. When we close a customer and contract them, so when we get a customer to sign – to a PPA, or lease, or a loan product in a solar residential structure nomenclature, we will then provide that contract pre-permit to Clean Power Finance. They have a contractual obligation to pay us on an average 30-day period from the point of receiving that contract. So we will be paid ahead of the installation of the panels in most cases. So while we’ll be funding OpEx associated with the direct sale of that origination, we’ll be paid quickly behind the incurrence of that cost, and the profit will be reported at the point. So we’ll be taking origination income, which will be the delta between the revenue we’ve negotiated with Clean Power Finance and our direct sales cost to that point. Trevor Johnson [indiscernible] Okay. Now, that’s helpful. Thank you. And then just lastly, I know for fiscal Q4 last year, there was a little bit of noise in the weather, just wondering if you can just talk about maybe the delta and the relative impact that might be year-over-year when you look at this Q4? James Lewis Yes. I think, as we’ve spoken before about $15 million impact last Q4, we can’t predict what the weather is going to look like, but we feel comfortable with the guidance we gave right now. Trevor Johnson Great. Thanks, guys. I appreciate it. Deborah Merril You’re welcome. Operator All right. And we have Damir with a follow-up question. Go ahead, Damir. Damir Gunja Thanks. Just on the new contracts that are coming in, I just wanted to confirm what even roughly what the average life of those deals is on the residential and the commercial side? Is the residential still largely four, five-year… James Lewis You’re correct. What we are seeing on the residential side is that four and five-year mixed debt, and then on the commercial side we have seen the length grow up a little bit between 2.5 years and 3 years. Damir Gunja 2.5 years to 3 years. I know it’s probably early and you’ve actually had some pretty decent customer additions, but is the lower commodity environment are we seeing any push back in terms of trying to from a sales point perspective? James Lewis No, what we’ve seen is good feedback – good response from our customers, and when we get some volatility like we saw in November, a little bit on the gas side, you do get some customers looking up the lock in, even at the low prices on the longer-term. So as we mentioned before, we like volatility, just not extreme volatility. Deborah Merril And Damir, I kind of add to that I think, one of the things you see from us today is that, we have a wide range of products that aren’t necessarily a great product. For instance, and we have our Just Energy Conservation Program that’s a flat bill for $90 a month plus smart thermostat that you get all your gas and power needs from us. So we’re seeing that and one of the big focuses of this team and of our company and all of our employees is to make sure, we’re kind of change in the conversation a little bit around product, so that we’re delivering products that have maybe a different kind of value that volatility is less of an issue around those things. Damir Gunja Okay. So that… Rebecca MacDonald Damir, I would just like to add something, it’s Rebecca. Damir Gunja Yes. Rebecca MacDonald Just the fact, I just want to tell you, I’m still in the room. Anyway over the last nine months, management has been talking about the transition and I think you as analysts have been having the same discussion. The top profile of entire customer base is changing with more addition of a commercial book to the resi book. But what I think is important to note and Pat touched upon it in his remarks is not only as James said that the life of that commercial customer is up. But that margin on that commercial customer is up, and that is the key. We said in the last nine months that we want to take the pain with the attrition of that book to move away the small margin customers that correct in our book over the last three years and clean it up with a higher margin customers. And we’re very pleased that we have been able to deliver effectively on it. Damir Gunja Great. And just the final one for me, I guess outside of solar, can you maybe talk about other bundling initiatives you may be pursuing or other offerings you may be able to add to the mix just leading some of the industry news there seems to be a cost and trend of people partnering up with various entities and offering more product? Deborah Merril Yes, Damir, one I already spoke out is, we’re very happy with results of our bundled smart thermostat with commodity. So far, we continue to expand that product across markets. And one of the things I think we’re really careful at is, the last thing I want to do is just start throwing the things at the wall to see what’s going to stick, the next thing, you are buying washer and dryer from us, so it’s something that probably doesn’t make a lot of sense. So what we’re doing is, we’ve got a great team of people that – with product focus that are constantly out there looking for things that make sense with energy commodity and things that really help to make it easier for our customer to control not only their costs, but also their usage. So I think, you’ll continue to see us, I think that kind of in a prudent way, the last thing I want to do is, like I said, just start point [indiscernible] because that takes time and effort of management and our employees. So far we’ve got a couple of things in the work, but solar is obviously the biggest one that we’ve recently announced, but we’ll keep looking at opportunities to add to that portfolio. Damir Gunja Okay. 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Electric Transmission In Transition – Sheltering $1 Billion A Year In Potential Future ROE

With an average FERC base-rate ROE of 10%, electric transmission firms could earn $1 billion a year in allowed returns from investments made 2014-2017. Last fall, the IRS ruled transmission firms could quality as a REIT structure. REIT structures could entice large utility firms to spin-off their transmission business. The electric transmission business may be starting to tiptoe into a vast sea of change. With the exception of ITC Holdings (NYSE: ITC ), the majority of transmission assets are held within much larger diversified electric utilities. For example, American Electric Power (NYSE: AEP ) owns the largest transmission network in the US with about 32,000 miles of line. First Energy (NYSE: FE ) is not far behind with 24,000 miles. Other major utilities with substantial transmission assets are: Southern Company (NYSE: SO ), Duke Energy (NYSE: DUK ), PG&E (NYSE: PCG ) and Edison International (NYSE: EIX ). Pacific Corp is building 4,300 miles of new lines and Xcel (NYSE: XEL ) has 3,300 miles of projects on the books. AEP is building 27 projects consisting of 3,200 miles of lines in partnership with others. Combined, AEP’s projects total $9 billion. The partnership of Duke and American Transmission is not far behind with 2,700 miles of additions. American Transmission is a joint venture of several utilities and municipalities in Wisconsin. Even the Oracle of Omaha is collaborating with AEP in a 50-50 partnership to build transmission projects in Texas. It is common knowledge that the grid has suffered from years of neglect and is demonstrated by the graph outlining transmission investments from 1982 to 2000. After hitting bottom at under $3.5 billion, annual investments are stabilizing over the next three years at $20 billion a year. The following graph outlines industry wide investments from 2008 to projected 2017. Source: eei.com (click to enlarge) Source eei.com About 45% of cap ex is dedicated to expansion of the network, and an additional 15% goes for replacement due to age, obsolescence, and storm damage. Between 2014 and 2017, there are expected to be 22,800 additional miles of transmission lines in the US. The balance of investments is grid network improvements such as fundamental, advanced technologies, and enhanced security. Projected Transmission Capital Expenditures by Type of Activity Years 2014 to 2017 Source eei.com Transmission investments industry-wide are expected to total $78 billion between 2014 and 2017. If 50% if this investment is considered equity and the FERC-allowed average ROE is 10%, the total industry-wide allowed return could translate to an additional $1 billion a year from investments made from 2014 to 2017. Historically, FERC regulated assets are more profitable than state regulated assets. For example, prior to FERC’s recent ruling in New England, ITC could earn between 12% and 13% return on equity vs. the most recent state average allowed return of just under 10%. Below is a chart from eei.com (pdf) outlining the average state regulated rates going back to 1990. The chart is from their quarterly report “Rate Case Summary” Source eei.com The FERC is under pressure to reevaluate its rate structure in some regions in the country. For example in the Northeast, the FERC settled a complaint by reducing the allowed return on transmission assets. Consumer advocates are pushing the New England rate structure as a nationwide model. In a press release , last year, the FERC announced a new maximum allowed base ROE of 10.57% for assets in the New England region, and was a reduction from the previous rate. In addition, there are several incentive clauses that could increase the base rate, such as a 0.5% incentive for stand-alone, independent companies. Currently ITC is the only publicly traded utility that qualifies for this incentive. More information on ITC can be found in a SA review from last May here and more information on the transmission business from the Edison Electric Institute here . But that may soon change. The dawn of utility asset financial engineering is upon us. The spin offs of natural gas pipelines and mid-stream assets into limited partnerships, along with the recent separation of NRG’s generation into NRG Yield (NYSE: NYLD ), foretells of structural changes within the transmission sector. Last fall, the IRS ruled that entities such as electric transmission assets could quality for a REIT structure. From a Moody’s article last Oct: Large US power transmission utilities are actively exploring the feasibility of using the real estate investment trust structure as a financing vehicle, says Moody’s Investors Service. It is plausible that utility REITs might emerge as early as late next year (2015). “Many US utilities are taking a look at their transmission assets to assess whether utilizing a REIT structure makes sense, given the abundance of these types of assets that produce steady cash flows,” says Moody’s Associate Managing Director Jim Hempstead in the report “US Utility Transmission Assets: Power Transmission REITs Poised to be Sector’s Next Phase of Financial Engineering.” Utilities have been pursuing “financial engineering” structures because yield-hungry investors assign premium valuations to vehicles with steady dividend growth trajectories, says Moody’s. From an article on publicpower.org explaining the IRS ruling and reporting on Moody’s report: In 2014, the Internal Revenue Service clarified existing rules that define what constitutes real estate. As a result, the REIT sector has grown as companies look to spin off their assets into new companies that are effectively exempted from corporate taxes as long as they operate within REIT guidelines. The 2014 IRS clarifications have helped open the REIT structure to non-traditional sectors, such as electric transmission in the case of utility companies; or fiber optic and copper networks, in the case of telecommunications companies. Potential REIT candidates in the utility sector include Texas-based transmission and distribution utilities and large transmission-only companies. Transmission assets make for an alluring REIT because they provide steady income that allows for dividends, a key feature for REIT investors. Utilities that create REITs out of their transmission assets are separating a yield asset from their growth assets, Moody’s said. “Regulatory contentiousness risk might increase because customer groups will object to future rate requests more aggressively,” the report said. “Other regulatory considerations that are likely to become more active include discussions over the appropriate cost of capital, the authorized return on equity and cost allocations.” Moody’s still sees ITC’s FERC-regulated transmission assets as a candidate for becoming a REIT. It also sees American Electric Power Co. Inc., FirstEnergy Corp., Xcel Energy Inc. and Entergy Corp., all companies that Moody’s said make transmission a core strategy, as likely candidates. Electric utility investors should be aware that a change in corporate structure also brings with it a potential credit downgrade as a higher portion of operating cash flow moves on to shareholders. Much like the REIT conversion craze that started in the timber industry in the last 1980s and leading to culmination of most timber companies now structured as REITs, the attraction of financial engineering transmission assets could be too tempting to avoid. All it will take is one to lead the way. ITC would be the most logical choice as it is already an independent firm. I expect larger utilities will then be under greater pressure to spin off their transmission businesses also as REITs. However, the impact of distributing greater portions of operating cash flow to shareholders to satisfy the REIT regulations, rather than reinvesting it as equity in additional growth projects, needs to be evaluated. Moody’s believes this will become a prominent topic of utility conversation by the end of this year. If they are correct, a new REIT sector will be born, offering the advantages of high shareholder distributions supported by federally regulated assets, which are more profitably than similar state-regulated investments. Author’s Note: Please review disclosure in Author’s profile. Disclosure: The author is long ITC, SO, AEP. (More…) The author wrote this article themselves, and it expresses their own opinions. The author is not receiving compensation for it (other than from Seeking Alpha). The author has no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article.